Re: Norman Finkelstein believes no emergency protection order will be issued on South Africa's ICJ case

 
From: "Anne Marie Abowd anneabowd@PROTECTED [Northwest Ohio Peace Coalition]" <peacelist@PROTECTED>
Date: January 9th 2024
This is sad news.  Well, now the U.N. should get more insistent. Someone has got to stop this bloodshed.  
Maybe just the initiative of South Africa itself will get the point across.  
Finklestein is awesome, but I read somewhere he has sort of given up hope and isn’t as active anymore. 
I rmember his powerful talk at UT brought by History professor, Tim…Kruse?  The crowded room included a few
Zionists weakly trying to contradict him, without much success.  Kruse later took a job at BGSU. Wonder why?
A real loss!  

Anne

On Jan 9, 2024, at 12:36 PM, Terry Lodge tjlodge50@PROTECTED [Northwest Ohio Peace Coalition] <peacelist@PROTECTED> wrote:

 

From: tjlodge50@PROTECTED

   Norman Finkelstein is a renowned Holocaust scholar and international politics expert. He is very courageous and has lost academic positions because of his support of Palestine. 

   His analysis of what will happen this week at the International Court of Justice on South Africa's petition to get a court ordered ceasefire to stop the Israeli genocide in Gaza is pessimistic.

   The Court has 15 judges, selected from the five UN Security Council countries, plus 10 more countries.

   India, Russia and China each have one judge on the International Court of Justice. There are 15 total who will render the decision. India, Russia and China each have war crimes or genocide charges pending against them at the ICJ (India - Muslim oppression; Russia - Ukraine; China - Uigher oppression).

   Finkelstein, in the below video, goes through the 15 judges, one by one, and concludes that by a 9-6 or 8-7 vote, there will be no emergency order issued against Israel that requires a ceasefire. In effect, Israel will win the fight against an immediate ceasefire.

   Israel will call such a ruling vindication. Biden will see it as clearing his clique of any responsibility for the genocide. And Israel's excesses and overreach as a result of "winning" could trigger the regional war Israel wants so badly. 

   We cannot let up. Even if Finkelstein is wrong and an emergency protection order is issued, Israel is likely to disregard such an order, point to its 8-7 margin and refuse to comply.

   We will have to be ready to continue the fight regardless of the outcome at ICJ. Even if the Court rules for the Palestinians, the only body that can enforce the order is the UN General Assembly. Assembling and financing an international peacekeeping force could be very difficult and time consuming. Activists the world over will have to continue to wage the fight. 

From: Sara's List <sroy@PROTECTED>
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 5:05 AM
To: Sroy@PROTECTED <sroy@PROTECTED>
Subject: [Sroy] Norman Finkelstein on South Africa's ICJ case - Please watch 
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17q8b-xKu_E

 
 

Summary below forwarded:

 

1- The court will not issue a decision now whether the occupation actually led to massacres or not. But the goal is to implement a temporary judicial ruling for a ceasefire, because the “possible” accusation is taking place now.

2- Out of 15 judges (countries), South Africa must obtain 8 votes in its favour. Countries entitled to vote: Slovakia, America, Morocco, China, Japan, India, Lebanon, Brazil, Germany, Uganda, France, Russia, Somalia, Jamaica, Australia.

3- Norman expects that less than 7 countries will vote in favor of South Africa and thus the temporary ruling will not be implemented.

4- China, Russia, and India. There are potential cases against them for committing massacres in/from their countries (Uighurs, Ukraine, Muslims), and therefore their fear may prevent them from voting in favor of South Africa so that the equation does not turn against them later.

 

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