From: tommcdona3@PROTECTED To Josie and all, A rally in front of Kaptur's office sounds do-able.  The other group I'm part of -- the Social Justice Committee of the Association of Catholic Priests -- has a pretty substantial contact list and usually turns out 10-12 folks for rallies, etc.  The Indivisible group could be another partner.  I'll see if Bev Bingle has a contact in that group.  (The Priests group also has a social justice Facebook page that we could access). Tom McD. On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 9:45 AM Josie Setzler p.p. PEOPLE who still give a shit <people@PROTECTED> wrote: From: josiesetzler@PROTECTED Karen points out that hardly anyone supports the Sunday demos any longer.  Maybe a “beefed up” one to say no to war with Iran would be an idea.  But with only 3 people on this thread, it doesn’t look promising.  Keeping a sense of community going among anti-war folks is foundational, but how?  The run-up to war feels familiar, but the response feels very different.  No national anti-war movement exists this time, as far as I can see.  How does it start?   Anyway, if there’s a way for “people who still give a shit” to see each other face to face and talk some time, I wonder if that would help.  Email doesn’t cut it.  In Fremont, we have a small group that does Wednesday vigils and then goes out to dinner afterwards.  Somehow that keeps us going, that and the honks.  But it’s a tiny effort without an obvious path to join something beyond our street corner. Enough for now.  I’ll let it go. Peace, Josie On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, Karen Wolf p.p. PEOPLE who still give a shit <people@PROTECTED> wrote: From: dakotakwolf@PROTECTED I am willing to do any of the above that will bring people out.  We have been having one to two to maybe even three folks at the Sunday demos. Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Terry Lodge p.p. PEOPLE who still give a shit <people@PROTECTED> wrote: From: tjlodge50@PROTECTED   OK, so where are people on this? A stand-alone demo, beefed up Sunday vigil? Series of events? Rally in front of Kaptur's office, conveniently located behind Channel 11, to demand she sign on to the below-listed legislative proposal? Other ideas? LTE's? On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 5:30:45 PM EDT, Karen Wolf p.p. PEOPLE who still give a shit <people@PROTECTED> wrote: From: dakotakwolf@PROTECTED I am with you, Josie and Terry. Karen Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Josie Setzler p.p. PEOPLE who still give a shit <people@PROTECTED> wrote: From: josiesetzler@PROTECTED It's unfair of me to start this email thread with no suggestion, but I wanted to feel some sense of community around this first.  One response is a great start, Terry!  So if only we had Steve with us, right?  We need to do a rally and march (sigh!).  I mean, we feel demoralized, but still there has to be something on the street.  And we need to find a way to get media attention for it.  A rally can be just a few people speaking from the steps of a public government building, right?  Are there any public officials who  might speak against the war?  We need people to make the connection with the domestic economy, I think.  I mean war with Iran will derail so many plans many of us would like to see go forward like Medicare for All, Green New Deal, free public college, etc.  Domestic and foreign policy should not be kept in separate silos. Find speakers willing to make the local connection. (like Johnathan Ross on Medicare for All perhaps?  or maybe Pete Gerken?) and see if that can get some media attention. And, of course, our best passion comes from those whose hearts are breaking over the suffering we will visit on the people of Iran and surrounding countries.  So we must have strong moral voices speaking at the rally.  And definitely the deja vu thing!!! No new Gulf of Tonkin or WMD drama! And a march could go to the offices of one or more "public servants" in Congress.  Marcy Kaptur has *not* cosponsored HR 2354 Prevention of Unconstitutional War Act of 2019. Sherrod Brown signed on to S. 1039 yesterday.  Portman, of course, has not. Let's start brainstorming, friends.  There, Terry, now it's your turn!  On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:35 PM Terry Lodge p.p. PEOPLE who still give a shit <people@PROTECTED> wrote: From: tjlodge50@PROTECTED   Josie, first, do you have any suggestions? I think many of us have growing anxiety and deja vu. I'm all ears. On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 2:20:54 PM EDT, Josie Setzler p.p. PEOPLE who still give a shit <people@PROTECTED> wrote: From: josiesetzler@PROTECTED Hey to “People who still give a shit”! How do we respond to the Bolton/Trump/MSM madness?  I can feel my system going on high alert.  How do we come together and *do* something against war with Iran? What are your thoughts, old friends? 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